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At least in the US. Hopefully other countries do better.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago

According to NHTSA numbers, New Years Day (and New Years Eve) are no longer in the top 10 most deadly holidays for drunk driving fatalities, or driving fatalities generally. Strong police presence and strict DUI enforcement has done a lot to cut down on the loss of life in this particular case.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Canada does not do better. We are really good at blaming the victim and allowing drunk drivers to be repeat offenders. Shit, where I moved away from there were people lobbying to increase the legal BH limit.

This is why driving should be by profession only and very regulated IMO.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Any other heavy machinery generally needs a license and regular recertification that requires you to basically take the test again. And anywhere you'd be operating generally has other people who have also undergone their own safety trsining. But giant 1-ton metal machines that go on public roads co-occupied by random pedestrians? Just come round every so often so we can give you a new ID.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exactly, it's insane how we allow people- even literal children- to operate heavy machinery that kills thousands every year with only a basic understanding and minimal experience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Not only that, but the most common area to train in is the very same roads everyone is using. There are no facilities where you can go and learn under controlled conditions and supervison, for most people you near the end of your teens and an adult gives you some keys after you past a written exam.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

dude, .04 is a joke and an excuse for police to harass. MADD ceased being about safety and has been money generation for decades now. This all has been a classic case of imposing new laws instead of simply enforcing the old ones, like gun control and some other things i can think of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (11 children)

The legal limit is .08 in most places. It should be 0. There should be no alcohol in anyone's blood stream when they are driving, no exceptions.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yup it's rampant here, thinking I might move to Montreal.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Speeding, drunk driving, lack of transit options, lack of enforcement.... All preventable factors

These deaths are not accidents

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

My ex's mom never stopped driving when she developed a medical condition that has her randomly passing out multiple times a day. She never stopped, the doctor never took it, and the inevitable happened.

She passed out, killed a pedestrian. Did like 2.5 years and ~6 Mo of that was time served IIRC.

Motorists aren't REALLY punished for crimes, and pedestrian murder is just victim blaming advertising for car ownership "if they hadn't been on their bike they would have survived" "that's what you get for walking on the side of the road"

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

War famine disease these are all preventable!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

So many accidents in Romania could be avoided if freight trucks were on rail, but now freight rail is garbage and nobody says anything

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'll never forget one of the dumbest things I've heard. Person in charge of the "orientation meeting" for exchange students at UCSB said with a straight face to the group of about 30 foreigners:

It's important that you don't drink and driver, as you can get a big fine.

Are you sure that's the reason?

Living in Norway, It's been 15 years since I heard of someone I know, know someone who drunk drove. Likely a very different experience in other social circles, or other parts of the country (coughFinnmarkcough) , but I would say it's definitely a cultural difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Please elaborate on how nothing has been done?

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