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[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Another fun fact about plant naming conventions: all lettuces* are the same species

*except wild lettuce but nobody really considers that a lettuce. Still, I guess it would be more correct to say all of the food lettuces are the same species.

Irrelevant side quest that I went on while double checking this: DuckDuckGo now forwards some search queries to their chatGPT wrapper, which prompted (pun intended) the following interaction:

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[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

More powerful AI says:

No, not all lettuces are the same species, although many commonly consumed lettuces (e.g., iceberg, romaine, butterhead, oakleaf, and leaf lettuce) belong to the same species, Lactuca sativa.

However, some plants commonly called "lettuce" belong to different species or even genera. Examples include:

Lactuca sativa: The typical garden lettuce varieties (iceberg, romaine, butterhead, oakleaf, loose-leaf lettuces).

Lactuca serriola: Wild lettuce, an ancestor to cultivated lettuce.

Valerianella locusta: Corn salad or lamb's lettuce, commonly consumed as lettuce but from a different genus.

Cichorium endivia: Endive, sometimes called lettuce but technically not in the lettuce genus (Lactuca).

Eruca vesicaria (Arugula or rocket): Often mixed with lettuces but belongs to an entirely different genus and family.

In summary, while most common lettuces belong to a single species (Lactuca sativa), not everything commonly called lettuce or used similarly in salads is botanically the same species or even genus.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Are those actually considered lettuces, though? It's most likely a cultural thing but none of those are lettuces over here. As in, calling them lettuce would be as far fetched as calling spinach lettuce.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

It's a bit clearer in french; "weed" is "mauvaise herbe" which literally translates to "bad herb/grass".

[-] [email protected] 145 points 1 week ago

Fun fact: the name for a weed in my native language is literally "angry grass" :3

[-] [email protected] 63 points 1 week ago

Unkraut in German. Doesn't deserve to be called a Kraut.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Similar in Norwegian: Ugress. Un-grass.

I've heard one definition of it that I like: The grass that your (grazing) animals won't eat.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Ogräs in swedish, gräs is herb and the O is like making it not-grass.

Röka gräs is smoking weed though so suddenly it's getting the good treatment.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

So technically all non-Germans are Unkrauts! I‘m incorporating this word.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago

I know where you are coming from, but as a German calling someone „Unkraut“ has a very dehumanizing sound and was used by nazis to classify people they wanted to murder. Example: https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/item/6SLYFZ3ZSAWYUJX26V4EXWYGFZBI7ZFH

„However, it would have to become the task of the Inner Mission... to clear God's field of this Unkraut“: women as victims of forced serialisation and "euthanasia" under National Socialism

What happend next is posted daily by https://mastodon.world/@auschwitzmuseum So you might want to skip this.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

I love it, what language is that?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In Swedish the prefix for bad stuff is the same as the prefix for not or un-. So a monster is a not-animal and a weed is ungrass. Which is especially interesting to me because that same prefix (o) is for better versions of things in Japanese.

e: This got me thinking about "plant," and I realized it's literally the verb to plant. In Swedish it's a growth, or thing that grew. Japanese and Chinese: planted thing. Spanish is also the same as the verb. I feel kinda bad we mostly talk about them in terms of farming them rather than giving them a proper name. Like if they get sentient someday, plant will probably be considered a slur.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

The French name for weed could be translated to "bad/wrong grass"

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[-] [email protected] 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

My definition: aggressive spread and resilience to removal.

Plants that are pretty might get more of a 'pass' than ones which are ugly, poisonous or thorny, but ultimately, even the most beautiful flower becomes a weed when it's suddenly everywhere and you are fighting constantly to get rid of it.

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

aggressive spread and resilience to remove

Many would argue that mint is an herb. But if you ever had your garden invaded by mint, you'll definitely classify them under weed.

Always plant mint in a pot. And if your neighbour has mint in their garden, you better have a 2m trench filled with concrete between their garden and yours.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

60 cm is the actual number, which makes it much too real for me...

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[-] [email protected] 62 points 1 week ago

Just wait until he finds out about "tree"

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

Any kind of twig that's not a shrub?

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

A nice one, and not too expensive.

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[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can say, "Ni" at will to old ladies!

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 1 week ago

In Spanish we call them "malas hierbas"

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

In German it's "Unkraut" which could either be interpreted as "not herb", "abnormal herb" or "evil herb". Is the range similar in Spanish?

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

My garden is all weeds. Tons of different plants, but some dominate in certain seasons, growing like 5 feet high. Seems to have avoided anything nasty though, no thistles, nettles or brambles.

My neighbour's garden is a thin layer of plastic astroturf. And they let a dog run about on it. Good luck getting dog diarrhoea out of that.

I know which I prefer.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

If you are happy with the plants being where they are then they aren't weeds. The main problem is companies that sell plant killing chemicals and services treat the word 'weed' as if it had a universal meaning.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wish someone had warned me before No Mow May about brambles.

1 shoulder injury and a year later I need chainmail gloves and a fucking flamethrower. I fill my green bin with brambles, by the time it's picked up they've grown back.

The main root is under a shed. I don't know how to eliminate it.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

The worst I had to deal with was pampas grass, which appears to be a plant made of actual swords.

I spent three days hacking at it in a coat so I wouldn't get shredded. When I finally cut the root bulb out it was a cube of wood a foot across. I could barely lift it out, I had to roll it to the bin.

At least pampas grass doesn't spread.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don’t know if this will work on brambles, but for pesky root systems I’ve had luck with Bonide’s Stump and Vine killer. You cut near the base of one of them, then paint the exposed stem with this stuff. It absorbs into the root system and kills all of it. Works great on pokeweed.

Edit: Turns out this is just a specific brand of triclopyr herbicide like MoonMelon mentioned. So here’s another recommendation for triclopyr!

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[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago

The general definition of a weed is "any plant growing where you don't want it to be". A corn plant in a bean field is a terrible weed.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

what the hell is a bean field? also beans are great with corn they climb the stalks, also have squash, then boom you have the so called three sisters.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes, this was a real educational technicality fuckup, it seemed sus but everyone was like "don't you know it's a weed"? - "No, no I do not. And you don't even have a field to worry abut crop yields, it's just a lawn & now there is a flower in it, wtf."

I know it's economy (or even sociology), but it's too close to biology not to directly explain it properly.

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Well, "weed" can be a legal definition. A lot of governments have a noxious weed list that either provides for consequences if you suffer that plant on your property, or just an excuse for the government to come on to your property to kill the weeds for you. For instance, Russian Olive is legally a "kill on sight" invasive plant in my area.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago
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[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Weeds is just the gardening term for "their kind".

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

A weed is whatever your HOA says it is.

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

The idea of “weeds” is a colonialist construct.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

[with visibly bloodshot eyes] "Nah, man, I disagree with your definition there."

like I know it's a science meme but both the stoner and the linguistics guy inside me go "but wait, there's more..."

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Is this fish but with plants?

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

OOP is the author of something like seven published novels, one of which has been adapted into a movie and another of which may soon be made into a streaming series. Never feel embarrassed to say what you learned today.

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[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

i call this the weed paradox.

even though weeds grow unassisted. it is impossible for everyone to grow weeds in their garden. for is they try, they are no longer weeds

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago
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