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Federated services have always had privacy issues but I expected Lemmy would have the fewest, but it's visibly worse for privacy than even Reddit.

  • Deleted comments remain on the server but hidden to non-admins, the username remains visible
  • Deleted account usernames remain visible too
  • Anything remains visible on federated servers!
  • When you delete your account, media does not get deleted on any server
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think this is a feature, well the media aspect anyway. Immutable media. The rest can be developed on.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

This is a link to Raddle.me, what does this have to do with Mastodon?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (16 children)

So just to clarify this point:

Anything remains visible on federated servers!

If I delete a comment on beehaw.org, it doesn't get deleted when accessed from another Lemmy instance that federates with Beehaw?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other people have already commented on how federated social media often requires certain data just for implementations to work and make sense, and there's not much more to add to that.

If you want private, end-to-end-encrypted, decentralized communication, the best modern solution to that is #matrix.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The same "rumors" exist about Matrix. According to some, "a lot of metadata is unencrypted". While somewhat true, there's literally no way to be able to deliver a message from person A to person B without knowing who the message is from and who it's going to, especially on a decentralized platform. Most of the (not E2EE) metadata sent with an event in Matrix needs to be read by the homeserver, and thus can't be E2EE.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

@elbowmacaroni if instead of linking to the post you had boosted it, would all the replies here appear in beehaw?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Am I missing something or isnt it that no matter what Lemmy does all those same problems would still exist, just from the internet archival sites instead. Sure the privacy could be better to deter some of it, but none of those issues are fully solveable so long as thise archival sites run. I guess the media not deleting is likely the biggest thing you could effect that archives would be less likely to store in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kinda unsurprising as rumors have it that lemmy's developed by pro-China Tankies.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's a work in progress.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I’m at a loss. You’re saying that things that you said publicly are private? Or you’re saying that they become private because you delete your account? Assume you dox someone. I need to find out if that happened. As an admin I’d be able to see that

  1. you
  2. publicly posted
  3. their data

I would need to be able to provide this to authorities if they provided needed legal documentation. Why do you think that privacy dictates you should be able to commit a crime, and get away with it by deleting your account?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don't think there is a legal requirement that you store that data, just that you make the data you do store available or in some situations you add logging for valid law enforcement requests.

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