Newsom Asks Cities to Ban Homeless Encampments, Escalating Crackdown (www.nytimes.com)

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

Liberals. Do not run this clown in 2028 if you want to win.

Inb4 - All I'm saying is that someone who openly does shit like this during a time of record hardship and homelessness is gonna have an uphill battle. Inb42 - Yes I know the shitheads on the otjer side are worse. Nobody cares. Republicans don't care. In their addled minds they're all temporarily embarrassed millionaires and every homeless person personally made the choice to be there cuz God or some other insane bullshit. I'm saying that people on your side do care about this. Not the Brunch Liberals. But your actual base. That you need to win.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

He’s running on “offer a bed first, then you get penalized if you don’t accept the offer.” A lot of people in CA like the idea of offering help, then penalizing if you refuse to accept it.

Problem is, people don’t understand why the big cities have so many unfilled beds. Many shelters are dangerous and or cause you to lose your belongings.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Anybody who thinks that’s a good idea should be dumped in a city with no money or place to stay and then told to sleep in the shelter.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Honestly, having politicians spend a week in the county’s worst rated shelter would probably be a great thing for voters to demand.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The key though would be they can’t at all tell people who they are and the people running the shelters can not be told in advanced who that individual is and when they will be dropped off.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It doesn't matter how he wants to frame it or even if California liberals like it, it's still going to end up with him defending videos of people having their possessions thrown away by a black-clad goon squad.

People may look the other way to that sort of shit when it's their neighborhood and they're tired of all the noise and obstructions, but NIMBYism only really holds strong when it's your backyard. When it's elsewhere you can pretend you have better morals and get offended.

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

Here is the model ordinance he’s asking cities to consider adopting.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Encampment-Ordinance-formatted.pdf

The big thing that gets left out of these discussions is shelters. Newsom’s stance is that encampments should only be illegal if indoor shelter is unavailable.

At face value, that doesn’t sound entirely unreasonable, but if you dig deeper, you’ll learn that a lot of indoor shelters endanger the wellbeing and belongings of unhoused people.

IMHO, for any of this to work, shelters need to be evaluated for their ability to provide a safe and caring environment, and if those shelters don’t hold up, a county shouldn’t be able to count those places as beds.

TL;DR: Newsom is arguing that people will be offered a bed first, but a lot of those beds are more dangerous than the street. And people need to start calling that out.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

And notably, if the beds are better than literally sleeping on a sidewalk, you don't need a law to criminalize the latter. The law only becomes useful if you need to make living on the street worse because you don't want to make living in a shelter better.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Why don't the homeless just simply befriend the children of oil tycoons and have them gift them a vineyard? Then they too could one day fail upwards to become the governor of California.

If Gavin wasn't the friend of a billionaire he would be an illiterate moron who couldn't hold down a job.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Gavin Newsom’s keeping it all in the family

https://calmatters.org/commentary/2019/01/gavin-newsoms-keeping-it-all-in-the-family/

this post was submitted on 12 May 2025

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