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[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Monetarization and politics aside, he got some valid points surrounding usability, ease of use and content.

The majority of the fediverse project's fail at onboarding user with simplicity. Modern third party clients (mastodon, pixelfeld, lemmy aswell) do that better, even par excellence. But if we keep referring people to websites with server lists, we'll lose them at that point already.

Federation and lengthy explanations (wall of texts) and tutorials (sorry @[email protected]) are no selling-point for everybody. It caters the nerd in us, but average joe is not a nerd but a simple user with little interest for these details. You could better refer them to an App that works without account and say: hit the explore button to see communities/contents/hashtags (what ever drives the particular network). In my opinion the old principle KISS (keep it stupid simple) is what needs to be followed, so we cann pull people in.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

YES, indeed @Senor Mono You are right. That's what's making a good app... good :-) A simple stupid Graphic User Interface. The fact that we are here on Lemmy means (most likely) that we are some kind of "nerds", because Average Joe will not come here, unless he/she can use an app without hassle and is able to discover the Lemmy communities with even 10 brain cells (or less). I know, I'm making a parody of it, but in fact that's exactely why apps like Insta, FB, etc are so popular. To end with a "free version" of Trump's words... even the uneducated must be able to use it without tariff barriers, LOL. Conclusion to be plain and simple: In my opinion (feel free to disagree)...We need to rethink the GUI of Lemmy and everything will be fine.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Are you ever used Voyager (https://vger.app/ https://vger.app/settings/install) ? Seems quite easy to use, there is even a tool to discover similar communities to your Reddit subscriptions when you first start the app.

I regularly see people saying they just use Voyager, they don't even know what instance they are using.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Yes, I have Voyager myself (little mouse icon) and I'm using it, but still I find it quite confusing for non-tech people. I try to explain. I'm a High School teacher in graphic design and crossmedia. I work mostly with teenagers between 14-18yo. They can work very well with the software, but don't try to explain the technology behind it. They don't wanna know or they don't care, as long as the software works and the program does what they want it to do. I also spend years educating adults to work with new technology. When I look at the Voyager interface, I see: Home, All, Local. I see lemmy.wtf; feddit.uk; feddit.org; lemmy.world, etc... Maybe people think that I'm just crazy and/or overreacting, but I can guarantee you that alot of people don't understand all the tech things behind it. Only 0.1% of the users of FB, Insta, TikTok, etc... have a clue (or are interested) in the tech behind the apps.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Home, All, Local. I see lemmy.wtf; feddit.uk; feddit.org; lemmy.world, etc…

What is confusing about Home? The description says "Posts from subscriptions"

I see lemmy.wtf; feddit.uk; feddit.org; lemmy.world, etc…

You mean thet community names have the @instance at the end? It is more confusing than an email address that is [email protected]?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I agree with some of the points of the original thread:

  • having Twitter clone or Instagram clone but decentralized kinda sucks no matter how you put it and it’s probably not mass sustainable

On the other hand… Lemmy is just a forum that can connect to other forums. You don’t find cool subreddits searching for them, the good ones are the ones recommended by other people, usually not by search. The fediverse actually suffers from having a big user base that wants Reddit/twitter/insta but decentralized instead of having small forums/microblogs connected to each other. Also the reason why you see me often advocating for less “generalized instances” and wanting more vertical focused ones. This is easily possible with lemmy dividing by topic and with mastodon dividing by localization.

If you want the fedi to thrive, build lemmy instances focused on being a stand alone forum first and mastodon ones focused on being local first (same for mobilizon)

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