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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

I was told by a German person on this very site that they'd never go right wing again because of a unique type of centrism in the country that's hugely popular and that my tiny American brain couldn't comprehend. Oh well, guess that's just another common centrist L.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

Centrism is just seeing an elephant about to step on a mouse and trying to make a compromise.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

to be fair, this is the image the center parties have and upkeep. I, as a farly left person, already question if this seperation to right extremism will still be upheld in 4 years. Our Center-right partie CDU falls more and more for populist rethoric, which reminds me of the republicans or the toris.

So what you have been told is not wrong per se. But there is a significant amount of people in the country and politicans in the parlaiment, that argue the seperation between right exremism and center parties did already collaps behind the scenes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

Third time’s a charm!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

There are more fucking neo-Nazis in the USA than in Germany. The shit AfD voters come from the Oklahoma and Mississippi of Germany, Thuringia and Saxony.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 minutes ago

Yeah, sorry, but that is like looking at the map in 1930 from these ones and saying "the NSDAP voters come from East Prussia only, don't complain about the Nazis in Germany!"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely not true. It sounds like you are German and if so it is pretty sad how little you keep up with your own election even though it happened just a few days ago. There are more AfD voters in eastern Germany but most Bundesländer have >18% AfD votes.
People tend to forget that Hitlers NSDAP only needed 18% in 1930 and a rigged election in 1933 to completely take over the country.
Coping doesnt get us anywhere. Its not always "the others" that vote far-right. Its the whole country, the educated just as well as the uneducated, the poor and the rich. Almost everyone has family members or friends that vote far-right and we need to talk to them, try to understand their motives and make them understand that AfD wants to make everything they fear 10 times worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes however today there aren't tools available anymore that hitler had to make this happen. Our constitution is now far better protected and isn't as easily dismantled as the Weimar republic's constitution. Still sucks that so many people voted for afd though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 minutes ago

I heard that argument often, and it's true that the same way and same "we essentially keep the old constitution alive completely and change laws in ways that were technically legal" as back then won't work.

However, fascism - also in the 1930s already - also has strategies like: "Just doing illegal things and overstepping what your posts are allowed to do, knowing you can only be stopped by force, even if judges and your superiors disagree." That one was a massive part of how Hitler quickly outmanoeuvred von Papen, even though Papen was chancellor and Hitler "just" vice chancellor. The NSDAP-adjacent ministers, police chiefs, judges, etc. simply did not report to Papen, no matter what the law and constitution said.

What I am getting at: One should never think the laws on paper are some kind of shield and holy fact, only the laws as the executive (cops and courts, essentially) protects and enacts are what really matters, and those are corruptible, no matter how good the constitution is. (Another often quoted example: The constitution of North Korea also guarantees a lot of freedoms and rights, but no one would say, that protects the people there.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

The shit AfD voters come from the Oklahoma and Mississippi of Germany, Thuringia and Saxony.

That's only kinda true. The east has way more Nazis, but just because the AfD is stronger there with 32% of the votes, doesn't change the fact that 18% of West German voters voted for them too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

Both countries are full of neo nazi.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Fascism is really good for the rich to get richer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Wouldn't want anything bad to happen to our beloved overlords. 💰OTL

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