Will they be now on FDroid? I think only one Proton app is there and it's a little bit sad.
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Proton VPN and proton pass
IRRC they even removed all telemetry from pass but not VPN.
They should definitely push drive and calendar there too.
Why the fuck does their VPN have telemetry?
Telemetry is not bad in itself. It can be used for bug/crash reports, or usage statistics, without tracking or personal data collection.
Do you want good products? That happens through telemetry. Simple as that.
I'm curious, any advice on that? How does one do "good" telemetry? I'm the first to complain about Microsoft, Apple, (even worst) Google, Meta and now OpenAI collecting data to sell me stuff... but it's true that also some data is needed to get some kind of introspection in terms of usage. Developers need to understand what is actually happening with the software they develop.
Now I'm wondering specifically about 2 side :
- how to do the data collection correctly (e.g local only, only send on crash, only send without PII, store only aggregate)
- how to get informed consent from users (e.g off by default, UX that supports understanding of why it's done and how)
I'm genuinely glad that the mindset around privacy have changed since the last few years but I'm wondering how, when it's a genuinely positive good case (to truly make better products), to do it.
It's a VPN! What did you expected? /hj
sad its on github but am not complaining much
You people are never satisfied!
Unfortunately GitHub is still where 99% of devs are
True :(
can you educate me a bit about what's wrong with that?
The workflow is also kind of obtuse.
FD: I prefer GitLab between the two.
tbh gitlab is also closed source unless your using the community edition
bcs github is owned by microsoft its not that private nor open source(like git)
wow didn't even know that. they certainly are hiding it well.
It took me going to their GitHub to find out, but it’s GPL 3.
Why the but? GPL 3 is the correct license to use for open source projects to ensure they stay open and corps don't freeload on them.
English isn’t my first language. I share your opinion regarding the license. Which connector would you use instead of “but” to indicate that you succeeded in your efforts even though it was harder you thought it would be?
English is my only language, and yours looks fine to me. I thought it was pretty clear from the first comment that the "but" indicated success despite difficulties, and as you clarified that's exactly what you meant.
Why not having a L2 maybe a L3? People from the US should feel like they're missing out in our modern world!
Looks like you’ve got the upvotes backing you. I’ll keep on using as is. Thank you!
Ah gotcha, you could just omit but in this case and the sentence would have the intended meaning.
AGPL would have been a bit better, especially for the server side
This does not apply to the server. Only the client app is open source. The server is proprietary.
Very nice, I do hope that helps us finally get a Linux version sometime soon lol