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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Dude broke through restraints, clearly a pen is a deadly weapon in his hands.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

I guess. But you can also smother someone with a fluffy pillow. So that's a deadly weapon, too? Like where is the line between "deadly weapon" and "any random object".

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

There is no such line. The pillow counts as a weapon and all weapons count as deadly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I think it might just be a line of how they used the random object could have reasonably resulted in death. So if you smack someone in the face with a fluffy pillow, it's not a deadly weapon. If you try to smother them with it, it is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'll be honest, if I roll 99 on a crit roll with a pillow I damn well expect an instant kill.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why are you using a d100 for attack rolls?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

It's a homebrew weapon from their last campaign in Pathfinder that they ported over, but the stats are legit and it's balanced trust them

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seems quite simple to me. Things like guns, swords, daggers and the like are designed to be weapons. So they're generally going to be assumed to be a weapon any time they're used/brandished.

But literally anything can be used as a weapon. So, in normal use they're not a weapon but if used as a weapon, they become one in that instance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, but then the term "deadly weapon" is kind of meaningless as it basically just means "assualt with a thing".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I think on a legal level it means it was an object that was being wielded as a weapon, and from the attack in the specific instance it was meant to kill and the object was capable of achieving that. Hence a deadly weapon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I'd agree there. It should be whatever the US equivalent of aggravated assault is. But the charges you could levy bearing in mind he aimed for the head could go as far as attempted murder I guess.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Not entirely useless. "Assaulted with thing that could kill or maim under the circumstances at that time" is pretty relevant, even if it is super broad.

Spitting on someone Is assault. If I was on trial for spitting on someone I'd hate to get lumped together with the guy who caved someone's head in with a lead pipe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you used it as a weapon and it had the potential to kill the victim, then yes, it would be a deadly weapon.