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[–] neutron 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Specifically in the case of Japanese language, the current orthography highly depends on the use of kanji to remove ambiguities from a purely phonetic notation in either kana system.

As a side note, Korean language also used to be written with hanja (Chinese characters) mixed in with hangul (native phonetic alphabet). The shift from mixed hangul-hanja notation to pure hangul was gradual and the major contribution that made it possible was the modernized orthography rules that allows visual differentiation of homophones when written down while adding some complexity. It's not perfect, but it works.

So, while many argue that kanji is essential to Japanese or hanja needs to be reintroduced in Korean for examples cited, I think the definitive reason is that the japanese speakers themselves doesn't feel the overwhelming need to switch right now. If they chose to introduce a purely kana orthography and had enough funding and political will, that's how they will roll.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

As a side note, Korean language also used to be written with hanja (Chinese characters) mixed in with hangul (native phonetic alphabet). The shift from mixed hangul-hanja notation to pure hangul was gradual

Oh good, someone already pointed this out!

I lived in Korea in the mid-aughts, and at that time hanja were pretty obviously on their last breath. The old man who ran the convenience store across from the school showed us how he was studying hanja, and in Korean class I learnt the hanja for Busan, the city I lived in. But that was it. I almost never saw anything about hanja otherwise, other than on old monuments and such. Hangul was pretty close to 100%.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

hey just wanted to ask: what's up with the circle-bits in korean characters? they're really unique, I just have no idea what they indicate (if anything) and always wondered....

[–] neutron 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The circles? You mean ? It's a component (consonant ieung) letter and indicates either:

  • no sound before syllable's vowel: 나 [na] - 아 [a]
  • final sound [ŋ] at the end of a character block, placed at bottom: 앙 [aŋ]
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

yeah, thanks! TIL.