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Court sees through Ron DeSantis’ lies behind his law banning medical care for trans youth
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Yeah, for sure. I'm definitely not against hormones and mental health treatment. It's just weird that "children shouldn't be able to just get permanent, life altering surgery," is a bad take around here.
It's an uninformed take because these bans are preventing teens and young adults from accessing blockers and hormones.
I never said I supported the laws blocking access to blockers and hormones. You're the one who read more into my comment than what was there.
You need to clarify your point then, keeping in mind that you are in a thread about the state of Florida blocking access to puberty blockers and hormones.
No, you need to not make assumptions. The comment I was responding to was discussing circumcision, and had nothing to do with blockers or hormones. I intentionally only brought up surgery.
Anything else was your assumption.
Alex, what is "context"?
The context was the comment chain that at no point mentioned anything but surgery.
If anyone took that to mean I was against all gender affirming care, they made a baseless assumption.
Your comment and several others you've made throughout this thread paint children as fickle, compare medical care to tattoos, and completely ignore that to even get treatments like blockers and cross-sex hormones is a multi-year process with a team of physicians, endocrinologists and therapists.
Hell, if you want to talk about surgery alone, the adult requirements are documentation from two therapists that you have persistent dysphoria, along with your primary physician before a surgeon will even schedule for a consult, from there, you go on a wait list that can span multiple years. For under 18s, the process is even more rigorous, requiring longer documentation, and wait lists often push back care past 18.
Put simply, I don't believe you.
I don't care if you don't believe me. You're drawing the wrong conclusions because you're expecting me to be against hormones and blockers. You're almost using that argument as a strawman.
You are wrong. All I said was children should wait until they're an adult before undergoing life altering irreversible surgery. Full stop.
It's a dog whistle, from the right wing.
They need to rile up their base. They used to do this with abortion, but they accidentally caught that particular car. They've apparently decided trans people will be their new whipping boy.
They are using the same playbook as with abortion, namely false equivalences. They say they are against genital mutilated of children. When it comes to laws however, they go after the very existence of trans people.
This is why people are reacting so strongly.
Do consider this doesn't actually happen - but this hypothetical point is often repeated and signal-boosted above the bad things that actually do happen to trans kids, and people who simply don't want us to exist fully believe it's real, discuss it as our agenda, and even threaten institutions and doctors who may or may not actually provide gender affirming care.
It’s a bad take, because it’s not what is being argued, and it is heavily insinuated that the only reason such an insane thing is being argued against is because someone is arguing for it.