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im trying to explain this to my lib friends who think collectivism is evil and sucks

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[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

I also imagine that there can be quite selfish reasons for supporting Marxism, though I have trouble thinking of them right now.

[-] 6kb_@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

generally i’m just like “the future of all of us including me hinges on socialism because capitalism will kill all of us” or for me “i want to fight for justice and not be an oppressor so people dont rightfully kill me” so it’s very easy to apply it selfishly

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah I want to have my life improve as well, which will not be possible under capitalism because my problems are inherently tied to capitalism itself (lack of unemployment due to the chaotic nature of job application and lack of justice due to police just not being interested in my case): A pretty selfish motivation for wanting to uphold socialism (though I have more noble reasons as well).

[-] huf@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

wanting poor people around you to have a better life so they're not homeless, they're healthier, they're happier so you in turn arent forced to witness the immiseration, etc etc etc.

also, wanting accessible cheap housing for you or your kids could be another reason.

there's plenty of selfish reasons for wanting communism.

[-] LeninZedong@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 week ago

And plenty of collectivist reasons too, but that is a given considering how even the stereotype of communism is collectivism to the extreme.

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