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Yeah, imagine not believing the Hollywood blockbuster scenario of Russia having intended to march their army down across into Portugal to take control of Europe's famously abundant supply of natural resources. It couldn't be that the reverse is far more probable and that Europe seeks to conquer Russia for it's resources which we all know has never been attempted before in history, no.
That's exactly what we are after and we don't see it as a problem. Nobody will cry for Russia.
The West never forgave the Soviet Union for defeating the Nazis.
The West ain't the world as you are quickly discovering with rampant cost of living crises as the subsidy from superexploiting the Global South is increasingly diminished. At some point one is going to have to reconcile the parasitism of the average Westerner. You depend on the Global South, they don't depend on you.
Is this an alternative history community?
Quite the opposite. If you don't understand something and genuinely want to learn then please ask.
I wish to learn about you guys. This is new. I'll be asking, sure.
We are marxist-leninists, pro LGBTQ, anti-imperialist and understand capitalism should be understood through science. We get trolls but if you sincerely want to learn then ask away.
Why do you guys pick the Soviet style of Marxist-Leninism? And by doing so, ingesting Russian imperialism (as evident by other comments on this post). Why not go with some other style, like Yugoslav? Which was, to my knowledge, very anti imperialist.
So Marxism-Leninism?
You lack reading comprehension, understanding of Marxism-Leninism and material reality.
So Marxism-Leninism?
Neither was the USSR imperialist nor was Yugoslavia ML.
Yugoslavia evaporated the instant the USSR wasn't around, they needed them to provide an umbrella from the West and without that buffer they imploded violently.
Aha, so Soviet Union has been protecting Yugoslavia. That's why Yugoslavs dug themselves into mountains and made bunkers along the iron curtain line with soviet satellites.
And how did that work out for them? Did it stop Yugoslavia from being destroyed?
I guess you think it's just a coincidence that Yugoslavia barely lasted a year without the USSR.
And yet Yugoslavia was destroyed by NATO, not the Soviet Union or the Warsaw Pact.
What do you think imperialism is?
This what Russia is doing since Putin came to power. And what the USA is doing since Breton Woods. And what China is doing since invasion of Tibet. And so on and so on.
I was looking for a definition.
Not surprised you didn't have one, just disappointed.
How about the genocide the US did to come into existence? The dozen genocides britain, france, belgium and others did? How about the genocide germany and the us arw doing in palestine right now?
You do seem to use a definition that includes use of the monetary system since you mention breton woods.
So how about the imf destabilizing dozens of countries around the world by austerity measures, leading to the west gaining massively cheap resources on average.
You sound like you are not on the receiving end of imperialism and colonisation hence the speculation about what imperialism may be rather than what it actually it is.
It is difficult convincing otherwise someone who may potentially materially benefit from western imperialism (you are not alone, a lot of us here are too and therefore we engage in class betrayal) but if you are curious and interested in further reading:
If you could only read one book then it would be the last one recommended above.
On Tibet: https://redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/
On Marxism: https://redsails.org/why-marxism/
Why Socialism by Albert Einstein: https://monthlyreview.org/articles/why-socialism/
Not everybody in the West is a nazi piece of shit like you, willing to murder the entirety of Ukraine to attack another country
You also said who is gonna believe this narrative while immediately admitting that you are ok with NATO provoking the war
Wow I'm in some parallel universe ๐๐
You are. In a scientific one, massively different from what you and a lot of us grew up in. Just we dont believe the lies anymore.
Tell me, does the usa and germany deport its citizens to concentration camps and war zones and destroyed countries right now?
Does the eu currently work on reading all messages by its citizens that arent encrypted and feed them into for profit spy software to make profiles to hunt them down?
Do they work with individuals who are (or were) part of a giant child sexual exploitation ring which documents have just been released?
I can go on like this all day. You are being manipulated. We are the antidote.
Well, one point for honesty at least. Congrats.