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[-] [email protected] 121 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd support it too, with two conditions:

  • No more special treatment for farmers, fishermen and whatnot, and no more rebates. The UK pays in full, like all the members, and they play by the same book.
  • They join the Eurozone.

That should ensure one of two things:

  • They're serious about rejoining and they're not about to throw a Brexit again.
    -or-
  • They're not really serious and Europe won't have to deal with the aggravation of a new application.
[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Get rid of FPTP. We don't need that shit in the Union.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Of course they won't get special treatment and adapting the Euro is a given. Although the latter is basically a commitment statement anyway which many countries will probably never follow through with.

[-] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago

I'd add to that the demand that the UK must fully comply with EU standards on human and civil rights, especially the right to freedom of opinion, freedom of assembly and the prohibition of torture.

Specifically this refers to the criminalization of Stop Oil and Palestine Action and the torture of Julian Assange.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago

Specifically this refers to the criminalization of Stop Oil and Palestine Action and the torture of Julian Assange.

I mean wouldn't that require, say, Germany to follow these standards first?

[-] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago

I wholeheartedly agree that Germany is falling significantly below these standards and should face repercussions by the EU. Unfortunately the sanctioning mechanisms for members in the EU are still lackluster.

When it comes to countries joining the EU, it is easier to scrutinize the adherence to the EU standards.

I am afraid that Germany will rather blow up the EU than stop its descend into authoritarianism.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Yeah, how's that going with Hungary? We cannot rely on the EU to enforce civil rights or freedoms. The UK needs to sort that ourselves.

Bringing in proportional representation is far more important than rejloining the EU in my opinion. That would be better for repairing the UK.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Was just about to paste some text i copied from the article here when i saw your comment; it seems your thoughts are in line with how many people think. Considering the Brits do not appear to be happy about those conditions, I guess a breunion or brejoining won't be happening very soon:

Only one-fifth of respondents across the four biggest EU members, from 19% in Italy and France to 21% in Spain and 22% in Germany, felt the UK should be allowed return as if it had never left, with 58-62% saying it must be part of all main EU policy areas.

The pollster stress-tested western European attitudes by asking whether, if the UK was only willing to rejoin the EU on condition it could keep its old opt-outs, it should be allowed to. Some (33-36%) felt this would be OK, but more (41-52%) were opposed.

In the UK, while 54% of Britons supported rejoining the EU when asked the question in isolation, the figure fell to just 36% if rejoining meant giving up previous opt-outs. On those terms, 45% of Britons opposed renewed membership.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I'm British and I think we should be subject to more conditions than when we were previously in the EU, if we were to rejoin. We had a great deal and we stupidly left rather than trying to work with the EU to resolve whatever perceived problems we had. So, yeah, obviously as a Brit I'd be happier for us to join on our old terms but realistically we screwed up and we should pay for that.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

My personal opinion is similar, not because i feel resent or think Brits dont deserve a good deal, but because i think EU should always work in the interest of the EU as a whole and that is having the UK having less exceptions they had before. But i also hope the EU won't play too hard to get, and work to prevent they delay the breunion decades beyond what it would take if they agree with a part of UKs conditions.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

I'm not opposing what you're saying, but just to be clear, plenty of countries have rebates in one form or another; Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, Austria, Germany for example.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Just like the UK exemptions most of those were given to early members as rules changed to get them to agree to the rule changes.

New members don't get that - and UK would be treated like a new member.

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