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This is a stupid argument. Trans women are not too strong for sport, but too strong for women's sport.
What's the point of segregating sports by gender?
If it's a matter of performance then they can break sports into performance classes, no gender segregation needed.
If it's a matter of fairness and making space for women in sports, then trans women deserve not to have to play with the boys just like any other woman.
Because men outclass women in almost any physical ability, be it strength, speed or endurance. Just look at world records.
Ah yes, let's make sport less accessible by introducing arbitrary limitations. Do we have basketball up to 1.60m height, then up to 1.70m height, then up to 1.80m height and so on? And do we introduce different tiers within those tiers by only having people up to 1.70m and 60kg, then 1.70 and 70kg ...
You CANT split sport into "performance classes", at least not in a way where it would help - men would on average still be in the higher "performance class" and nothing would change.
I know you probably don't want to hear that, but biologically, trans women aren't women. They are still physically superior to cis women. That's why we prefix them with "trans". Even after extensive hormone therapy, trans women still have some advantages over cis women.
Nobody has a problem with trans women in non-physical sports. Nobody would bat an eye if there was a trans women in chess. Nobody would care if there was a trans woman in e-sports (we actually had one years ago in league if I remember correctly). But we can't just abandon fairness for cis women in sport because we want to appease a small number of trans women, and on a physical level (especially before hormone therapy), they still do have an advantage.
I have never heard this argument come out of someone who doesn't look like a wet noodle could outclass them in physical ability. It's always a keyboard warrior who hasn't cooked a meal since the Kraft Mac he made in 9th grade when his parents left him alone one evening and wouldn't know what the inside of a gym looks like if it weren't in GTA.
Motherfucker, I knew plenty of cis women who could easily out-class me in physical abilities and I was in the US military
The only people who care what's in the pants of the enlisted person beside them are pieces of shit who don't deserve to be there. Focus on your fucking job, and stop fantasizing about their crotch.
Not once did I ever wonder what a person was assigned at birth while I was in. They wouldn't be there if they couldn't physically do it.
Nobody is lowering qualifications of military personnel because the individual is trans.
Oh dw about that, I do go to the gym more regularly since covid.
Oh, you also don't have to worry about that. I do cook regularly for me and my girlfriend, and mostly healthy stuff, apart from the occasional cream sauce.
Okay, very cool. Doesn't change the fact that men - on average - are physically superior. I also know a few women that could fuck me up, but I know WAY more women that I could fuck up.
You seem to misunderstand me. I never said trans people should not be allowed in the military. I was only arguing against transpeople in SPORTS. Military, the gender should not matter - while I do still think that women are - on average - weaker than men, that should not bar them from serving, because it's not a competition about who's the best, unlike in sports.
If sports are about competing to find out who's the best, then what's the point of segregating sports by gender?