Let’s be clear: this Conservative party is dead. Those who killed it should own up so we can move on (www.theguardian.com)

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Justine Greening, the former Tory MP, argues that the current Tory strategy of going after Reform voters isn't working. She seems to think the Tories should try to capture centrists instead (which is what David Cameron did, I would argue).

The party has attempted to be a “mini-me” version of Reform UK, and unsurprisingly Reform voters prefer the real thing. And this strategy’s consequential alienation of Conservative-leaning centre-ground voters has seen them head off to either the Lib Dems or Labour, or to the Green party. The party has no winning majority in any age group of voters other than those over 70. This is no basis for a successful electoral strategy for the longer term.

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[-] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They are utterly fucked and it's glorious.

I've been letting reformers have their victory day, but the reality of those local election results isn't a massive blow to labour, oh it's a blow, but they had hardly any seats in those councils to begin with. The tories lost about the same amount that reform gained. Also, good day for the lib dems too. Reform keep saying they'll win the next GE. I'm not so sure, but I think we can all agree they are going to end up with more seats than the tories.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

All reform does is split the Tory vote all but garunteeing a labor win

Edit: this got down voted quick so I assume there's some sore losers on here

[-] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

quite probably, but I think 'splitting the vote' doesn't fully describe how much supoort the tories have lost. 68% of their council seats up for election gone, I mean when was the last time an opposition party lost so many seats in a council election?

I'd say it'd be more accurate to say reform are taking the conservatives place.

Personally, I hope the lib dems fill in more of the vacuum.

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