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Lol.
Allow me to introduce you to reality. First thing's first. You don't get everything you want in reality. It fucking sucks and you have to bust your ass to get things even close to how you want them slowly over long periods of time.
Now, being that we've established reality, allow me to further explain this particular part of reality.
There is no scenario in which America gives up its oldest and most important ally in the Middle East. Not happening. Go ahead and forget that shit. That means America is going to tip-toe around Israel so as not to jeopardize that allegiance.
So now, in reality, you were presented with exactly two options in November. Why only two options? Because no 3rd party is even remotely close to winning a presidential election because no 3rd party has done the work to get ANY members in EITHER chamber of Congress. How do I know a 3rd party can't win, other than having NO members in Congress? Because the 3rd party candidate with the most votes was magician Jill Stein who magically appears right before every election then magically disappears again after each election. And she only got exactly HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast. So now we know, definitively, that no 3rd party candidate had a snowball's chance in hell of winning the 2024 presidential election.
So now let's talk about our ONLY two options. One was NOT Donald Trump and the other one was, you guessed it, Donald Trump who, before the election, literally said "Israel should finish the job". He made it abundantly clear, multiple times, that he gave exactly zero fucks about Palestine. And now, surprise surprise, he wants to level the place, round up Palestinians and send them to other countries, and build a fucking vacation resort.
So, rub those brain cells together and let me know which option would have been best for Palestinians. Let me know which option someone who claims to care about Palestinians should have chosen to minimize the suffering. Because you can cry to your mommy all day about neither option being good, but the bottom line is if you gave a fuck, you'd be interested in helping minimize the suffering.
And that's just in relation to Palestine. If you did your homework like any responsible American should, you'd find out that our economy fairs better under Democrats, they have WAY less convicted criminals in their ranks, and they have a voting history proving they regularly vote in favor of the middle and lower classes. And again, I'll repeat, your ONLY two options for the foreseeable future, until a 3rd party gets off their asses and does some real hard work, are either Democrats or Republicans.
Now, if you're admitting you either didn't vote or protest voted, you probably don't have the brain cells to grasp anything I just said, but hopefully others reading this will.
Lol.
Now that you "established reality", let me add one caveat of reality that keeps getting ignored when folks make your argument.
Left wing voters are not motivated by genocide, nor trying to meet those who do support it in the middle with "just a bit of genocide, as a treat".
Maybe America can't give up its "most important ally in the middle east". But in that case, unless the Dems could find a way to bridge the gap between appeasing Israel and stopping genocide, then it was obvious they were going to lose.
But they didn't even try to. FFS they didn't even try to pay lip service to the very notion. Nor did they try to rally their base with policies their base has been asking for for decades. Instead they campaigned on "we are a big enough tent to welcome Republicans like Dick Fucking Cheney". With a last minute candidate swap putting forward someone who lost the last primary by a frankly embarrassing margin.
I voted for Kamala, I kept these opinions to myself to not push voters away from doing so, and I pushed the harm reduction argument to anyone who was considering abstaining or voting 3rd party. I still believe it was the best play we had with the hand we were dealt. But it wasn't the best play the Democrats had, it was damn near the worst.
When we have decades of data to show how many people don't vote, and how fickle those who do are, it's on the political party to motivate their voters. And Dems just didn't fucking bother. On the contrary, the reality is that the party the motivated almost all voters in the country was MAGA. Be it for or against Trump. Almost no one was voting FOR Kamala.
So welcome to reality, the reality that you cant win an election based on the virtue of "being the second worst option".
Since we're adding caveats of reality, I'll join in: the Democrats' myriad mistakes and missteps in "motivating" left wing voters does not absolve those voters of their own responsibility.
You did the right thing
I did the same, despite my own similar lack of "motivation", because as you said, it was the best play we had with the hand we were dealt. The criticism here is leveled at the third party voters and abstainers, because the people here are voters. If you want to criticize Democratic leadership, I encourage you to direct that criticism directly toward them.
I would love to have had a viable alternative, but without significant representation in Congress and state Governorship, it's just not going to happen. Successful presidential campaigns don't just appear out of thin air (unless you have a massive cult of personality). The vast majority of presidents were previously Senators or Governors, offices that they rose to after careers that began at the local level. If you want better options, actually vote in your local elections, and encourage other leftists to do the same.
Until then, red vs blue is our reality, and criticizing the lesser evil for not being good enough is a virtue signal circle jerk.
LOL... go ahead and splain away why you think people should vote for the slave holder. Why it isn't on the slave holder to change their beliefs, but on the people voting to just suck it up. In fact, you don't even think you should bother getting the slave holder to change their beliefs. You are fine with slavery.
Jill Stein received more votes from Palestinians than Harris. Now according to you, Democrats like yourself are just way smarter than they are capable of comprehending and they should just sit down, shut up & do what you tell them. The slave holder knows best according to you.
I'll just leave this here
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/jill-stein-a-russian-asset-and-a-hypocrite
If you are concerned with spoiler candidates, you should be very invest in passing electoral reform in your state. That way the people voting for the green party could still potentially have their votes counted against the republicans, even if the green party didn't win.
Are you working to pass electoral reform in your state?