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The reason it was on the ballot was because those districts already had that. The leaders of the party killed it, thus meaningful change is prevented at the lower levels of governance to prop up their true ideals.
But that being said, you are right the democrats need to know that if they do not back progressive ideals, progressives will not vote for them. So until they do progressive policies, they should not be voted for.
So you're saying we should shoot ourselves in the foot by allowing a fascist takeover of our government in order to teach the Dems a lesson that won't matter if fascists take over our government?
That's.....well that's certainly an opinion.
I am saying that the necessary steps forward were decided by the Democratic Party.
We have to clean our shit first before we handle the republicans. I would prefer to prevent harm first, but that is out of our hands now. Fascists have taken over the government. You want nothing to change with the democrats? Don’t expect change in the voting box. What was the democrats reaction to losing this election? ‘We should drop the defense of minorities, we should advocate power to the republicans, uncontested to show everyone how bad it is because they didn’t vote for us. We should not talk about Gaza. we should stop fighting against aggressive deportations.’(which they never did)
No their stance and actions after the election shows that the democrats need to be the first hurdle jumped. Once they are in order and we have a non fractured party THEN we drag the republicans into the light.
They should not be voted for in a functional voting system. But the US doesn't have that. You have a system where your opinion doesn't matter if they can get to 51% of the vote elsewhere. If you want progressives to matter, you need progressives to thrive and become unavoidable to win. One party wants to suppress and eliminate progressives if they could, and they are now in power. Progressives will lose even more foothold. The other party isn't great either, but under them, at least progressives could grow to become that critical mass you need to make actual change in the party and prevent lawsuits like that from happening.
The democrats know the rules of the game, and so should you if you can vote. If you dont want to sacrifice any chance of progressive change, you cant pretend they don't exist and that a party with disproportionate incentive to change for you has to do so in order for you to vote the survival of your ideals.
EDIT: Better phrasing
If they know the rules of the game then not participating in calculated non interference with the republicans. Maybe to spite their bitterness? I would hope not. Maybe to enrich themselves? I would hope not. But the actions speak for them selves. I voted democrat consistently, mainly because i don’t want harm to come to the venerable. But the democrats are not a friend of progressives. They know that if the voting system was changed, they would be irrelevant, and so they stop that change from happening at local levels. Don’t think i can vote for democrats again after what they did. And it feels like they are playing chicken with their own voter base. The only path i see forward is to starve them of power until they are made to change.