I mean, is "Deny, Defend, Depose" equivalent of "Let's kill [Person]"?

To me it seems more of a "It'd be a shame if [Person] died" and not a direct threat. So do y'all personally think its considered a direct threat? And how would a court of law (in the US) see the phrase "Deny, Defend, Depose"?

I'm asking because I've seen a number of comments removed for that phrase, including one of mine.

As per .world worldnews mod, no discussing naughty stuff like jury nullification.

While this post is blowing up, here's the book referenced by the shooter:

Delay Deny Defend - Why Insurance Companies Don't Pay Claims and What You Can Do About It

• Pdf
• Epub

By request: Full, uncensored video of the shooting. (Fucking obviously NSFW)

Jury nullification: A practical FAQ

Do I have to answer questions about jury nullification?

This was in Lemmy world politics.

I said something along the lines of:

"Wow, I haven't had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while."

Along with

"Nah, the more dead ~~corpos~~ dragons, the better."

In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.

...

Good ole' civility clause.

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

.world mods have never heard of it I guess.

Was banned from [email protected] for calling out a Mod's misuse of the Egg prime directive to criticize trans people for helping out trans women in denial of their trans-ness. They're denying the validity of signs of being transgender, what the actual fuck, this shit is not okay. Then after banning me that dipshit locks the post so no one else can reply on it. How is this not power-tripping?

Modlog history for my account: https://discuss.online/modlog?userId=11993717

Well now this is trashy. I got permabanned from r/interstingasfuck for posting a comment in r/MensRights that was an attempt to correct some misinformation. I've never made a post in either subreddit and that was the only comment I've ever made in the MensRights subreddit. But r/interstingasfuck's bot decided to permaban me even though I've not broken any rules.

The ban

The single comment I've ever made on r/MensRights

Also I tried to make a post on r/MensRights (would have been my first post there) on me getting banned for making a comment and the mods there blocked it. You would think they'd love the chance to show they are victims of discrimination and censorship.

Man Reddit is trash.

Drag was banned from [email protected] a day ago. As you can see, no comments or posts were removed alongside the ban:

In fact, drag has never commented or posted in the community:

Drag has no history of transphobia and no history of trolling. And drag can unequivocably prove that drag was never transphobic or trollish on Ten Forward, because drag has never said anything there. This is a ban for literally, provably, nothing.

Personally, I think I've been banned for supporting a politician that the mods don't like, and their policies. What does Ye Power Trippin' Bastards think? My Mod logs: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=10495266.

At some point I have to start wondering if Putin pays these sorts of people.

Seem like not endorsing the government or the blue party will get you banned for trolling at [email protected]

https://lemmy.world/post/21485461

Lord.

1. Mod of [email protected] posts a great Greta Thunberg quote, but then tries to use it to justify not voting in the upcoming US election
2. Multiple people point out that’s very clearly not what she meant
3. Removed by mod Removed by mod Removed by mod Removed by mod

Using your mod powers to decide who is allowed and not allowed to speak is not very anarchist of you, @[email protected]

Five days ago, drag was banned from [email protected] for using neopronouns. A comment explaining drag's pronouns, and a comment saying "drag" isn't a nickname, were removed with the reason "trolling". Drag understands why someone would think that using different pronouns than most people is trolling - transphobia. However, drag is confused how on earth not liking a nickname is a violation of any rules anywhere.

Context of the removed comments:

Drag would like to pre-empt any further accusations of trolling by asking a question: If drag were a right wing troll, and you chose to freely accept drag's pronouns, wouldn't that completely neuter the trolling attempt? Trolling is about trying to make others upset. You don't have to get upset when someone uses unusual pronouns. If you aren't transphobic, then it's impossible to troll you that way. And drag promises: drag wants you to not be transphobic. Drag is not trying to upset anyone. If you do what drag wants you to do, then you get what you want too. This is a non-issue, there's only a problem if you want there to be.

EDIT: DRAG DID NOT TELL ANYBODY TO USE DRAG'S PREFERRED PRONOUNS.

Earlier today drag was banned from [email protected] for this post: https://lemmy.nz/post/15864724

The reason stated was "Dishonest headline and quoting".

The sidebar of the community states the following on article titles:

Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive.

The article's original title was "Harris vs. Trump spoiler’s supporter says the quiet part out loud" - in drag's opinion, this is clickbait. The quiet part is not stated in the title. The reader has to click on the article in order to learn what it's actually about.

Drag's post title was "Jill Stein ally says the Greens' strategy is about making Harris lose the presidency" - this clearly states which group is involved and what precisely the controversial statement was. But drag was banned for making the title more clear.

The sidebar of the community states the following on article quotes:

Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Drag quoted three passages from the article in the post body: The quote from the Jill Stein ally which the article was about, and two passages about Donald Trump's relation to these events. None of the quotes were edited. As asked by the sidebar drag did not post the entire body, only the parts drag believed was relevant, and drag was banned for following this rule too.

The vast majority of comments on the post, including all the highly upvoted comments, agreed with the points made by the article and expressed zero problem with the presentation. There were two comments which had a problem with drag's presentation of the article:

…um, where is the second half of this article? (2 upvotes)

This comment is a non-issue; posting the entire article in the body is against the community rules. Drag was following the rules by only posting half.

Least dishonest LW politics OP quoting an entire article out of context (1 upvote)

This comment agrees with the moderation decision but does not explain why, and drag can't work out why on drag's own. Drag tried drag's best to represent the article accurately.

So I try to make heads or tails of this situation. I got randomly banned from a community where I posted a youtube video showing something from a Convention. Then I wanted to post a question today but realised that I couldn't since I was banned. That community is sadly the biggest of all Star Citizen communities (the next one would be from lemmy.world)

I took a look at the Mod log and see the following line in it:

So no clean up of violating comments or posts, just a strict out ban.

The community has a pretty standard ruleset:

further, the moderator @[email protected] hasn't posted anything since a year, so what gives here, or was it some other mod that was able to declare the ban?

I can't figure out how to view my own reply comment anymore, but a /Ukraine user commented this insanity and I called them out — that cornering a sociopathic nuclear armed dictator is recklessly stupid, and exactly what will trigger a nuclear war — and got massively downvoted for "enabling Russia". 90% of the user base agreed with "conquering" Russia, and thought previous mini incursions across the border are equivalent; proving that nukes are a forever bluff.

The best part? After inspecting several of the mods and users comment histories I realized all seem to have nothing to do with Ukraine whatsoever, and appear to be young pro-war machine North American jarheads (or keyboard warrior wannabes), who sub to or mod numerous other military related communities.

cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/45204357

Yesterday, I created my account on Lemmy.ml because I want to become mod on [email protected]. And I posted this comic on [email protected] It's SDV game cutscene where Shane a NPC go watch Sports game with you kiss you accidentily but It was part of that event also player kiss Shane(NPC) back. Here's video for more context. And someone claimed it have SA(Sexual Assualt) From Hexbear Ofcourse. So, I should delete it. I said it was a part of game cutscene. And If main player doesn't love the Shane(NPC) then they don't need to complete this event. And Just as a sarcasm I added Yeah we shoule delete this entire community because this game is Woke like Woke Detector Steam Group said. That user think I am some anti-woke dickhead something like that IDK. And tell me to Kill My Self. What I do now? I wanted on become mod on .ml because community was already well established. I message dessaline but I am sure he will not unbanned me. :(

Did I really did something wrong? I don't know If I really did something wrong.

Link for that comic if embed doesn't work.

Create one lemm.ee [email protected]

Disclaimer: The issue here is not completely related to the bot presence, but more about the justification used. People would probably be less annoyed if the mods stated "this is our decision, and it is final", rather than to try to use admins as an excuse.

As usual, for people looking for other world news communities

• [email protected]
• [email protected] (warning: single instance admin)

https://lemmy.world/comment/12825224

https://lemmy.world/comment/12834553

For other threads about the MBFC bot:

• https://lemmy.world/post/19665956
• https://lemmy.world/post/18073105

Hello I'm not a person who is affected by this community moderator but I'm posting on behalf of people who are, since they don't seem to know of this community yet. I attempted to reach some via DM but I'm not sure they'll respond. So I'm making this post since I feel this needs to be addressed.

Recently I was made aware of a community that appeared randomly on Lemmy.world. It seems to be a troll community given the type of content, but the reason I'm posting about it here specifically is that this mod seems to be banning anyone who points this out or goes against his narrative. Furthermore he is only using the autoremove on ban function, not removing any content the users have posted, which I believe is deliberate in attempt to prevent the content from showing up under the modlog and revealing the hypocrisy.

Some samples of comments:

All of these were retrieved from the API, even though they aren't included in the modlogs, I could've included more but it's kind of a time consuming process to look for them and retrieve them. Viewing removed comments is easier on Lemmy than it is on Reddit but it still isn't easy.

What do you guys think, does this seem like power-tripping? Also does this person's content seem like blatant troll content?

CC: @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

People who's comments I mentioned, I CCed them so they know I did this on their behalf

Tl;dr:

• these are old events, 9 months ago.
• we have since then mostly moved on, but I still thought it could be interesting to document those in this community
• the power trip was a single mod not wanting to discuss how a community should be run and banning people wanting to discuss it
• the new communities we created following this power trip ([email protected] and [email protected]) are now more active than the initial one

Hello everyone,

I added the summary of the event in the tl;dr above. If you are here, you probably want to know the details of what happened.

Starting point

As you may remember, there used to be a movie focused instance called lemmy.film. Following its shutdown, a few users were looking for a new movies and TV shows community that would not be on Lemmy.world (if you want to know why some people are against overcentralization on Lemmy.world, you can have a look here: https://lemm.ee/post/30444527 and https://feddit.uk/post/18336398 )

While I was contacting the lemm.ee admins to become mod of the at the time abandoned [email protected], another mod (I'll just call them "The mod" in this thread) created [email protected]. We contacted the other people who were on the old lemmy.film communities and started posting.

I posted a lot over there, if you sort by Old, you'll see a lot of my posts from back then: https://lemm.ee/c/moviesandtv?dataType=Post&sort=Old

• https://files.catbox.moe/vrnv1t.png

I was also trying to set up discussion threads as they were things who were missing on Lemmy at the time, and a lot of people were complaining about that

• https://files.catbox.moe/75zkck.png

I also started asking for a weekly thread "What have you been watching": https://lemm.ee/post/13386100 which was denied. It wasn't a big deal for me, I was mostly focused on growing the community, I assumed that we could revisit that topic later. That was on 31 October 2023.

Success for the community

12 November, we celebrate our 300 subs: https://lemm.ee/post/14621123

17 November, I start a weekly thread: https://lemm.ee/post/15176837. 7 comments, reasonable success for a first.

26 November, I am appointed as mod: https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863, and start pinning the weekly threads.

4 December, I am removed as mod. I ask the mod to make me mod again (purely because it's easier to pin threads), they never answer.

10 December, I open another thread on how to handle movie discussions: https://lemm.ee/post/17546624

I let it go for 6 weeks, I keep posting, after all, this is more or less okay. By then, the community has around 1100 subscribers.

The power trip

30 January, I open a thread to discuss with people in the community how they wanted to handle movie reviews:

• https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/dc0a56ca-bcca-466b-b351-8815c8ab34c9.png
• https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863

The post get removed

I open another thread "Are we not allowed to discuss the way this community is managed?"

• https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/c1c8fa89-8cad-4914-aec0-c2c30ab70405.jpeg

I get banned

I use an alt to comment

Hello, As you banned my other account, I am now commenting with this one. I'm not going to comment on this that much, the modlog is public, people interested can have a look at make their own opinions. For history, the two removed posts: (screenshots) I guess we can just conclude that we disagree on how to manage this kind of communities, which is mostly fine, that's what Lemmy is about after all: freedom. I'll probably contact the people interested in review threads (and there seems to be a few, based on the removed threads and the 200 upvotes on the other post) and see it we can offer an alternative for people looking for a more structured community. Good luck

Comments gets removed: https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863

The mod then posts how they want to address the community issues: https://lemm.ee/post/22459747

My alt gets banned.

Please not that those are permabans. Up to this day, I am still banned on those two accounts from that community.

The aftermath

Let's be honest here, I was a bit annoyed. I had been actively posting to a community, helping building it from scratch from months, to get banned just for asking how we could manage this community better.

I reached out to sunaurus, the lemm.ee main admin, who told me that he couldn't do anything, as his admin policy was to not interfere with mod decisions. It's a fair policy that I could understand (even though I was still annoyed). They made me mod of [email protected], and I thought I would take it from there.

I built [email protected] with the same energy I had put in the previous community. I found other people who had seen the drama happening on the other side and wanted to join forces in building another community. I appointed all of them as mods, because why not.

Over time, our community became more and more popular, and now has 2.97k monthly active users, while [email protected] has 1.52k

The mod had promised to add other mods to the community. They did for 4 months (https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863) but then removed them in June 2024.

In the meantime, they also banned another user in April 2024 for similar reasons to the ones used for me: https://lemm.ee/post/30754133

They also removed the AMA we organized in May 2024 on [email protected] (https://lemm.ee/post/31335226) because "Unvarified AMA not organized by this community - seems like spam" (https://lemm.ee/modlog/408863)

More recently, we started a [email protected] community, which now has 2.35k monthly active users.

That's it.

Edit: @[email protected] Contacted the moderator who did it on my behalf who admitted that this was a mistake, he sends his apologies. This incident though does highlight though the need for ban notifications as well as the need for a modmail system to contact community and site moderators.

I have left the post up with the original contents bellow as I feel it would be wrong to delete the post and rob people of the valuable information it contains, both in the post itself and in the comment section.

I messaged a mod from the community, not sure if that was the one who did it but this was weird. Not sure if it's power-tripping probably a mistake but it's certainly weird and seems like a knee jerk reaction since I didn't have activity in those last 10 days (I checked for votes too). Also no other bans in the modlog for "sock puppet account" so I don't even know why I would be singled out.

Why would someone think I was a sock puppet account? Because I have multiple accounts on different instances? Really weird...

Account is @[email protected], I didn't post from that account since I try to keep each account on each separate instance (helps prevent accidental vote manipulation).